Oct. 26, 2021, 9:52 p.m. ET
Katie Glueck,Dana Rubinstein and Jeffery C. Mays
5 takeaways from the second N.Y.C. mayoral debate.
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The final debate in the New York City mayor’s race devolved into a chaotic contest Tuesday night marked by name-calling, lecturing, personal remarks and even profanity as the long-shot Republican candidate, Curtis Sliwa, sought to knock Eric Adams, the Democratic nominee, off-kilter at every turn.
Mr. Sliwa faces extraordinarily difficult odds against Mr. Adams, and for much of the campaign, Mr. Adams has cast himself as a mayor-in-waiting who is already preparing to govern the nation’s largest city, ignoring Mr. Sliwa’s efforts to coax him into confrontation.
But on Tuesday, the candidates did clash at times, and Mr. Sliwa spent much of the debate hectoring and interrupting Mr. Adams, and occasionally jolting him out of the rise-above-it-all demeanor that he deployed during their first debate last week. Mr. Adams lashed Mr. Sliwa for faking crimes and even over his record on child support.
“That is scurrilous,” Mr. Sliwa protested.
The two candidates staked out starkly different positions on matters from vaccine mandates to congestion pricing to outdoor dining, while finding common ground on some education and public safety issues.
Still, the personal and political divide between the nominees was repeatedly thrown into sharp relief for viewers who tuned in one week before Election Day.
Here are five takeaways from the debate:
Mr. Sliwa needed an election-altering moment. He didn’t get one.
Given New York City’s overwhelmingly Democratic tilt, any Republican nominee would face a steep climb in a mayoral contest. But Mr. Sliwa, whom Mr. Adams has referred to as a “clown,” may face an especially hard challenge.
He has admitted, as Mr. Adams noted repeatedly, to faking crimes for publicity when he was younger. He is perhaps as well-known these days for owning more than a dozen cats as he is for any sweeping vision for the city. And while Mr. Sliwa has tried to make public safety a signature issue that galvanizes voters, that effort is complicated by Mr. Adams’s background as a former police officer.
Taken together, Mr. Sliwa needed something of a miracle to change the seeming trajectory of the race — and he did not appear to get one. He did seem to catch Mr. Adams off guard at times, opening the debate by forcefully questioning Mr. Adams about interactions with gang members, which sent Mr. Adams veering into attack mode himself.
But if Mr. Sliwa sought to produce any damaging new information about Mr. Adams that would make many voters seriously reconsider their choices, it was not immediately clear what that would be, since he pushed many familiar lines of attack.
And as the debate wore on, Mr. Adams returned to his posture of ignoring Mr. Sliwa, looking at the camera instead of at his opponent, skipping opportunities to question or engage Mr. Sliwa, and insisting that his focus was on the voters of New York City.
The two men clashed over one of the city’s biggest crises: homelessness.
Homelessness is one of the most pressing issues that the next mayor will face.
There were nearly 48,000 homeless people, including almost 15,000 children, sleeping in the city’s shelter system every night in August, according to the Coalition for the Homeless.
The overall figure for August also included 18,357 single adults, close to a record.
Asked how they would tackle the homeless issue, Mr. Sliwa skirted the question and instead attacked Mr. Adams and his relationship with Mayor Bill de Blasio.
The single adult population in homeless shelters has increased 60 percent since Mr. de Blasio took office in 2014. The mayor has cited homelessness as one of the issues he has struggled with the most during his two terms.
“We’ve been out in the streets tending to their needs, getting them food and clothing, these lost souls,” Mr. Sliwa said before quickly pivoting to criticizing Mr. de Blasio and his social services commissioner, whom Mr. Adams has praised.
“I would like you, Eric Adams, to condemn your partner and your teammate Bill de Blasio,” Mr. Sliwa said.
Mr. Adams ignored Mr. Sliwa’s remark, calling homelessness a “real issue” before laying out a more detailed proposal.
Mr. Adams talked about his plan to turn 25,000 underused hotels rooms in the boroughs outside of Manhattan into permanent single-room occupancy housing for the homeless. Many hotels outside the main tourist and business districts in Manhattan were “built to be shelters,” Mr. Adams said.
“We have to get out of the shelter business and get into the business of getting people permanent housing,” he said.
Mr. Adams also said he would increase housing subsidies for families at risk of losing their homes, use a state law to get homeless people who can’t take care of themselves off the street, and partner with the police and mental health professionals to move homeless people out of the subways.
“These are our neighbors. These are our former residents that lived next to us,” Mr. Adams said. “There’s a level of compassion that comes with it.”
The debate turned nasty quickly.
Mr. Sliwa suggested that Mr. Adams consorted with murderers. Mr. Adams noted that Mr. Sliwa had admitted to faking crimes.
And the debate had barely begun.
On substantive issues, this debate proved similar to last week’s contest. But tonally, it proved far nastier.
After Mr. Adams argued that he would have engaged more energetically with union leaders on vaccine mandates, Mr. Sliwa suggested that Mr. Adams talk to his “friend and teammate” Mr. de Blasio, who will soon be leaving office.
“You are acting like my son when he was 4 years old,” Mr. Adams shot back. “Show some discipline so we can get to all of these issues. You’re interrupting, you’re being disrespectful.”
Mr. Sliwa countered that Mr. Adams should stop being a “robot” and show compassion for city workers who risk losing their salaries for failing to get vaccinated against the coronavirus.
Soon enough, the conversation got even more personal.
Mr. Sliwa accused Mr. Adams of actually living in New Jersey, an allusion to questions that have been raised about Mr. Adams’s residency, and he mocked Mr. Adams’s decision to blame his tax-filing errors on his purportedly homeless accountant.
“You fake where you live, Eric Adams,” Mr. Sliwa said.
Mr. Adams said that Mr. Sliwa was demonstrating “clown-like actions,” and then accused him of hiding money so he would not have to pay child support.
“That is scurrilous that you would say that,” Mr. Sliwa said. “How dare you bring my family into this?”
The tenor of the debate did not go unnoticed.
“I assume you’re not going to send each other holiday cards come December,” said Bill Ritter, who moderated the debate.
On some hot-button issues, the candidates agreed — a reminder that the next mayor will not come from the city’s left wing.
Mr. Adams and Mr. Sliwa may disagree on many of the specifics, but both fundamentally believe in expanding the role of the police in promoting public safety.
Mr. Adams, who has said he was a victim of police brutality and spent much of his police career advocating for changes from within the system, also described his plan for bringing back an overhauled plainclothes unit to target gangs, “target those who are using guns.” His proposal has discomfited some New Yorkers who want to see the power of the police scaled back.
And Mr. Sliwa indicated, in his typical forceful language, that he wants to empower the police to the greatest extent possible.
Issues of education — and the best way to make public schools more integrated and equitable — do not necessarily break down along neat ideological lines. Both Mr. Adams and Mr. Sliwa have expressed concerns over Mr. de Blasio’s decision to end the gifted and talented program for elementary school children. They have said, instead, that they want to expand the program, positions that they revisited on Tuesday night.
A moment of levity over pets and diet.
For a brief moment, the candidates did not fight with each other. They communed over animals. More precisely, Mr. Sliwa praised Mr. Adams’s decision to forgo eating animals, while Mr. Adams praised Mr. Sliwa’s work in rescuing them.
The moment of bonhomie did not happen without some prodding.
Toward the end of the debate, Mr. Ritter asked the candidates to say something “nice” about their opponent.
“I take my hat off to Curtis, what he is doing with cats,” said Mr. Adams, perhaps referring to Mr. Sliwa’s advocacy for no-kill shelters, or perhaps to the more than a dozen cats that share a 320-square-foot studio apartment with Mr. Sliwa and his wife. “I think we need to be humane to all living beings.”
Mr. Sliwa was even more effusive in his praise for Mr. Adams’s decision to become a vegan.
“His promotion of a vegan way of life to avoid serious medical issues has probably already helped dozens, maybe hundreds, maybe thousands of people,” Mr. Sliwa said. “As someone who has been in the hospital many, many times, I hope one day to be a vegan.”
Right now, Mr. Sliwa added, he is “at the vegetarian stage.”
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Oct. 26, 2021, 8:17 p.m. ET
Luis Ferré-Sadurní
Sliwa falsely claims that a councilman isn’t an American citizen.
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In one of the strangest moments of the debate, Curtis Sliwa falsely said that Councilman Ydanis Rodriguez, a Democrat from Washington Heights who is originally from the Dominican Republic, was not an American citizen.
Mr. Sliwa, the Republican mayoral nominee, was answering a question about whether he supported a City Council bill that would give immigrants who are authorized to work or live in New York the power to vote in municipal elections. He brought up Mr. Rodriguez, the sponsor of the bill and a supporter of Eric Adams, the Democratic mayoral nominee.
“The councilman of Washington Heights,” Mr. Sliwa said, “he has a green card, which means he has been able to bring his family here, he is able to tap into all the benefits available to citizens. The only thing you cannot do with a green card is vote.”
He added, “You have to ask yourself, why after all this time would Rodriguez not want to be a citizen of the United States?”
Mr. Sliwa’s comments prompted immediate backlash from Democrats, including Mr. Rodriguez himself, who became a U.S. citizen in 2000 and has served in the City Council for over a decade.
“This was completely offensive to all immigrant New Yorkers who live in NYC but were born and raised in another country,” Mr. Rodriguez wrote on Twitter. “Curtis should not assume that just because I have a strong accent, Dominican roots, and I’m fighting to restore the right for our immigrant brothers and sisters to vote in municipal elections that I am not a citizen.”
— Ydanis Rodriguez (@ydanis) October 26, 2021To be clear, I became an U.S citizen in 2000 and have been voting ever since.
This was completely offensive to all immigrant New Yorkers who live in NYC but were born and raised in another country. Curtis should not assume that just because I have a strong accent, Dominican… https://t.co/eab4tQHTyB
Mr. Rodriguez’s bill could give hundreds of thousands of foreign-born residents in New York City who have green cards and work permits the right to vote in local elections.
Mr. Adams expressed his support for the bill Tuesday night, saying it was important that green card holders “have the right to participate in local elections.”
Oct. 26, 2021, 8:05 p.m. ET
Michael Gold
That’s it for the last debate between Eric Adams and Curtis Sliwa. The candidates will finish campaigning in the next week, before Election Day next Tuesday. Thanks for watching with us!
Oct. 26, 2021, 8:05 p.m. ET
Andy Newman
In his closing comments, Curtis Sliwa promises to close animal shelters where animals are killed, then pivots to showing love for the city’s most vulnerable humans: “It was Gandhi who said asociety that does not take careof its animals does not takecare of its people.Look at the emotionallydisturbed.Look at the homeless.We have got to show compassionand caring.”
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Oct. 26, 2021, 8:00 p.m. ET
Andy Newman
The candidates are asked for closing comments. Eric Adams appears ready to put his hand on the Bible and get sworn in. “Just as my dream isbecoming a reality, I wantyours to become a reality.”
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:58 p.m. ET
Michael Gold
When asked what might surprise people about them, Eric Adams reveals he cries all the time at “The Five Heartbeats,” a 1991 movie about a Motown-inspired vocal group that I just looked up on Wikipedia. Curtis Sliwa says that he loves electronic dance music.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:57 p.m. ET
Andy Newman
For his mandated kind comment about his opponent, Curtis Sliwa praises Eric Adams’s passionate embrace of veganism.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:57 p.m. ET
Nicholas Fandos
Curtis Sliwa fawns over Eric Adams’s vegan diet. He says he admires the Democrat’s decision to change what he eats. “I’m like at the vegetarian stage,” Sliwa says.
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Oct. 26, 2021, 7:56 p.m. ET
Grace Ashford
Finally, Curtis Sliwa’s cats get a mention. Eric Adams commends his opponent “for what he’s doing around cats.”
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:55 p.m. ET
Andy Newman
The candidates are asked to say something nice to each other, a tall order tonight. Eric Adams praises Curtis Sliwa’s love of cats; Mr. Sliwa keeps more than a dozen.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:55 p.m. ET
Michael Gold
Eric Adams says he supports biking in the city and would promote bike use among residents. He doesn’t mention it here, but he has pledged to add 300 miles of protected bike lanes in the city in four years if he is elected.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:54 p.m. ET
Michael Gold
Curtis Sliwa says he has not called for eliminating bike lanes. But he has, saying that many of them are under-used and should be returned to parking spaces.
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Oct. 26, 2021, 7:53 p.m. ET
Andy Newman
Curtis Sliwa says that the vaccine requirement for customers at restaurants in the city is chasing diners to New Jersey and Long Island. He said he voted recently and didn’t have to show his vaccine card. “But to get a cheeseburger andfries you have to show avaccine passport and ID?That is crazy.”
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:53 p.m. ET
Jeff Mays
Curtis Sliwa is really trying to rankle Eric Adams. He has derisively mentioned the trip Adams took to Monaco after the Democratic primary at least twice.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:51 p.m. ET
Andy Newman
New York City’s next mayor will inherit a homelessness crisis.
The next mayor will inherit a homelessness crisis that has largely defied Mayor Bill de Blasio’s costly efforts to fix it, mainly because the city remains woefully short of both affordable housing and so-called “supportive housing,” which includes social services for people with mental illness and substance abuse problems.
The candidates were asked Tuesday night how they would help people who are homeless get off the street. Eric Adams, the Democratic nominee, touted his plan to turn thousands of empty hotel rooms into supportive housing, spoke of the need to expand housing vouchers and said the city needed to shift its focus away from barracks-like homeless shelters, which are both expensive to run and widely loathed by the people who stay in them.
Curtis Sliwa, his Republican opponent, noted that Mr. Adams’s hotels-to-housing plan focuses on the outer boroughs, when most of the hotels that have closed are actually in Manhattan. “You are going to stick more homeless people in Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx and exempt Manhattan?” he said. “Come on.”
The number of single adults in the city’s main shelter system has fallen slightly from a record high in the spring, but is still up about 60 percent since Mr. de Blasio took office in 2014. The family shelter population has dropped, but largely because of an eviction moratorium that is set to expire in January.
In parts of Manhattan, many random attacks and hate crimes have been linked to people living in streets and on subways with untreated mental illness. Assaults in the precinct around Times Square have more than doubled since before the pandemic, and felony assaults in the transit system are up more than 35 percent compared with 2019, even as ridership has dropped. The city’s response has included aggressively tearing down homeless encampments, a tactic advocates say merely pushes people from place to place.
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Oct. 26, 2021, 7:51 p.m. ET
Winnie Hu
Eric Adams says he would keep outdoor dining, but he would evaluate dining structures and use of sidewalk space.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:49 p.m. ET
Dana Rubinstein
Eric Adams appears to be having a hard time keeping that strained smile on his face.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:49 p.m. ET
Dana Rubinstein
The last debate of the mayoral election turned nasty pretty quickly.
Curtis Sliwa suggested Eric Adams consorted with murderers. Mr. Adams noted Mr. Sliwa had admitted to faking crimes.
And the debate had just begun.
Topically, the final debate before next Tuesday’s mayoral election has been similar to last week’s debate. The candidates largely agree on the future of New York City’s gifted and talented program (they would expand it). Mr. Adams supports some vaccine mandates for civil servants and students. Mr. Sliwa does not.
But tonally, tonight’s debate has proven far nastier.
After Mr. Adams argued he would have engaged more energetically with union leaders surrounding vaccine mandates, Mr. Sliwa suggested Mr. Adams talk to his “friend and teammate” Bill de Blasio, the outgoing mayor.
“You are acting like my son when he was 4 years old,” Mr. Adams shot back. “Show some discipline so we can get to all of these issues. You’re interrupting, you’re being disrespectful.”
Mr. Sliwa countered that Mr. Adams should stop being a “robot” and show some compassion for city workers who risk losing their salaries for failing to get vaccinated.
Soon enough, the conversation — or bare-knuckled brawl — got even more personal.
Mr. Sliwa accused Mr. Adams of actually living in New Jersey, an allusion to some of the cloudiness surrounding Mr. Adams’s residency, and he mocked Mr. Adams’s decision to blame his tax-filing errors on his purportedly homeless accountant.
“You fake where you live, Eric Adams,” Mr. Sliwa said.
Mr. Adams said Mr. Sliwa was demonstrating “clown-like actions,” and then accused him of hiding money so he would not have to pay child support.
“That is scurrilous that you would say that,” Mr. Sliwa said.
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Oct. 26, 2021, 7:48 p.m. ET
Michael Gold
Both candidates repeated their stances on this from last week. Eric Adams supports congestion pricing. Curtis Sliwa opposes it, and he wants the transit authority to focus on fare evasion instead.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:47 p.m. ET
Michael Gold
The candidates are asked about the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s congestion pricing plan, which would require drivers to pay a toll to enter parts of Manhattan. The next mayor will likely have little influence over the plan, which is being implemented by the M.T.A., but will be able to appoint someone to the board that will set the toll rates.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:47 p.m. ET
Nicholas Fandos
Curtis Sliwa slams Mayor Bill de Blasio’s record: “Is there a grade, below D-? F!” Eric Adams is gentler, giving him a B+. But both men agree the mayor’s universal pre-K was his biggest achievement in office.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:46 p.m. ET
Jeff Mays
“That’s a privilege for American citizens,” Curtis Sliwa says when asked if he supports legislation that would allow legal residents who are not citizens to vote in municipal elections. Eric Adams supports the plan.
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Oct. 26, 2021, 7:44 p.m. ET
Luis Ferré Sadurní
Curtis Sliwa has definitely been more bombastic this debate, leaving Eric Adams to straddle the line between firing back or holding back to portray an image of being above the fray.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:43 p.m. ET
Andy Newman
Curtis Sliwa notes that Adams’s hotels-to-housing plan focuses on the outer boroughs, when most of the hotels that have closed are actually in Manhattan. “You are going to stick morehomeless people in StatenIsland, Brooklyn, Queens andthe Bronx and exempt Manhattan?Come on.”
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:42 p.m. ET
Jeff Mays
Eric Adams has pushed a plan to turn tens of thousands of rooms in underused hotels outside of Manhattan into single-room occupancy housing for the homeless. Some of the hotels outside of Manhattan were “built to be shelters,” Adams said.
Oct. 26, 2021, 7:41 p.m. ET
Andy Newman
On homelessness, the moderator asks how to help homeless people but also get them off the street. Eric Adams touts his plan to turn thousands of empty hotel rooms into supportive housing for people with mental illness. He also says that the city needs to invoke Kendra’s Law, which allows someone to be ordered into treatment.
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